Use BBC.com or the new BBC App to listen to BBC podcasts, Radio 4 and the World Service outside the UK.

Find out how to listen to other BBC stations

Radio 2,01 Jul 2022,3 mins

Jim Harris on 'Imperfection'

Pause For Thought

Available for over a year

Art historian, Jim Harris, joins Zoe Ball for today's Pause For Thought.

Programme Website